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|It seems that doctor Breggin doesn’t like my ‘Suicidal Society’ substack. Please find his comments here. Let me first and for all say this to him: let’s talk. It’s time to have a proper conversation.
|It seems that doctor Breggin doesn’t like my ‘Suicidal Society’ substack. Please find his comments here. Let me first and for all say this to him: let’s talk. It’s time to have a proper conversation.
You might know what my ‘Suicidal Society’ article was about: the idea is gaining traction in public discourse that we would be better off if a major part of the population stopped to exist. Humans cause climate change; they are a virus proliferating on the surface of the earth. There is too many of them. Let’s start with eliminating the elderly through euthanasia – old people are costly and useless. We see how such ideas pop up more and more in the mainstream media.
You might know what my ‘Suicidal Society’ article was about: the idea is gaining traction in public discourse that we would be better off if a major part of the population stopped to exist. Humans cause climate change; they are a virus proliferating on the surface of the earth. There is too many of them. Let’s start with eliminating the elderly through euthanasia – old people are costly and useless. We see how such ideas pop up more and more in the mainstream media.
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And then comes the part doctor Breggin seems to be quite angry about: I remark that such ideas can only gain traction in society when there is a strong suicidal wish in the population. Everyone can read the full article here.
And then comes the part doctor Breggin seems to be quite angry about: I remark that such ideas can only gain traction in society when there is a strong suicidal wish in the population. Everyone can read the full article here.
In a nutshell: doctor Breggin believes that I am blaming the innocent victims of propaganda while excusing the propagandists. And it is not the first time I do so. According to him, I did exactly the same with my mass formation theory: blaming the innocent people and excusing the criminal elite. And even before the coronacrisis, I walked this path already. He found a 2018 newspaper article reporting that I protected mass murderers in my psychotherapy practice.
In a nutshell: doctor Breggin believes that I am blaming the innocent victims of propaganda while excusing the propagandists. And it is not the first time I do so. According to him, I did exactly the same with my mass formation theory: blaming the innocent people and excusing the criminal elite. And even before the coronacrisis, I walked this path already. He found a 2018 newspaper article reporting that I protected mass murderers in my psychotherapy practice.
Here is what I propose to doctor Breggin (as I proposed before): let’s have a public conversation. I read some parts of his book. It seems to me that we have some common goals. And I add to this that I am grateful for his efforts to expose pharmaceutical crime.
Here is what I propose to doctor Breggin (as I proposed before): let’s have a public conversation. I read some parts of his book. It seems to me that we have some common goals. And I add to this that I am grateful for his efforts to expose pharmaceutical crime.
For me this isn’t a matter of ‘winning a debate’ with doctor Breggin – it’s an invitation to have an open-minded conversation. I propose people read ‘The dawn of everything’ by Graeber and Wengrow. In the first part of the book, the authors describe how the native inhabitants of North-East America succeeded in organizing their tribal societies almost without use of power or hierarchical relationships. How could they do so? Because they practiced the art of sincere speech in public space, hours and hours and hours a week.
For me this isn’t a matter of ‘winning a debate’ with doctor Breggin – it’s an invitation to have an open-minded conversation. I propose people read ‘The dawn of everything’ by Graeber and Wengrow. In the first part of the book, the authors describe how the native inhabitants of North-East America succeeded in organizing their tribal societies almost without use of power or hierarchical relationships. How could they do so? Because they practiced the art of sincere speech in public space, hours and hours and hours a week.
Even when a severe crime, such as murder, was committed, they walked the path of sincere speech. After weeks and weeks of open conversations between the social network surrounding the victim and the network surrounding the perpetrator, toxic affects were usually ex-pressed well enough to continue tribal life without the need for punishment and retribution.
Even when a severe crime, such as murder, was committed, they walked the path of sincere speech. After weeks and weeks of open conversations between the social network surrounding the victim and the network surrounding the perpetrator, toxic affects were usually ex-pressed well enough to continue tribal life without the need for punishment and retribution.
That’s what I invite doctor Breggin to: let’s practice the art of speech together. We have different opinions indeed. Unlike doctor Breggin seems to believe, I don’t think that the problems of this society can be reduced to the actions of an ‘evil elite’. We are all part of the problem, also the people who fall prey to the actions of ‘the elite’. Doctor Breggin seems to interpret this as ‘victim blaming’. In my opinion, I rather make people aware of the fact that they are not powerless. We are all part of the problem and hence we can all contribute to the solution.
That’s what I invite doctor Breggin to: let’s practice the art of speech together. We have different opinions indeed. Unlike doctor Breggin seems to believe, I don’t think that the problems of this society can be reduced to the actions of an ‘evil elite’. We are all part of the problem, also the people who fall prey to the actions of ‘the elite’. Doctor Breggin seems to interpret this as ‘victim blaming’. In my opinion, I rather make people aware of the fact that they are not powerless. We are all part of the problem and hence we can all contribute to the solution.
And we do so in the first place by openness and willingness towards those who have a different opinion than we have. As I remarked before, in my analysis, this is the essence of the metaphysical revolution we are going through: on the one hand we have a mass in the grip of this new kind of lie and manipulation which we call ‘propaganda’; on the other hand we see the emergence of a group of people united by sincere speech. In the mass, everyone has the same propagandized opinion. In the group, people all have their own, singular opinion. And that’s what makes them eager to talk and listen to one another. As soon as the group becomes energetically more powerful than the mass, the era of totalitarianism is over.
And we do so in the first place by openness and willingness towards those who have a different opinion than we have. As I remarked before, in my analysis, this is the essence of the metaphysical revolution we are going through: on the one hand we have a mass in the grip of this new kind of lie and manipulation which we call ‘propaganda’; on the other hand we see the emergence of a group of people united by sincere speech. In the mass, everyone has the same propagandized opinion. In the group, people all have their own, singular opinion. And that’s what makes them eager to talk and listen to one another. As soon as the group becomes energetically more powerful than the mass, the era of totalitarianism is over.
Doctor Breggin: let’s find out whether speech can unite us across our differences in opinion. I hope you kindly accept my invitation.
Doctor Breggin: let’s find out whether speech can unite us across our differences in opinion. I hope you kindly accept my invitation.
|Il semble que le docteur Breggin n'aime pas mon sous-sac "Société suicidaire". Vous trouverez ses commentaires ici. Permettez-moi tout d'abord de lui dire ceci : parlons-en. Il est temps d'avoir une véritable conversation.
|Il semble que le docteur Breggin n'aime pas mon sous-sac "Société suicidaire". Vous trouverez ses commentaires ici. Permettez-moi tout d'abord de lui dire ceci : parlons-en. Il est temps d'avoir une véritable conversation.
Vous savez peut-être de quoi parlait mon article sur la "société suicidaire" : l'idée, qui gagne du terrain dans le discours public, selon laquelle nous nous porterions mieux si une grande partie de la population cessait d'exister, fait son chemin. L'homme est à l'origine du changement climatique ; il est un virus qui prolifère à la surface de la terre. Ils sont trop nombreux. Commençons par éliminer les personnes âgées par l'euthanasie : les vieux coûtent cher et ne servent à rien. On voit que de telles idées reviennent de plus en plus souvent dans les grands médias.
Vous savez peut-être de quoi parlait mon article sur la "société suicidaire" : l'idée, qui gagne du terrain dans le discours public, selon laquelle nous nous porterions mieux si une grande partie de la population cessait d'exister, fait son chemin. L'homme est à l'origine du changement climatique ; il est un virus qui prolifère à la surface de la terre. Ils sont trop nombreux. Commençons par éliminer les personnes âgées par l'euthanasie : les vieux coûtent cher et ne servent à rien. On voit que de telles idées reviennent de plus en plus souvent dans les grands médias.
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C'est alors qu'arrive la partie qui semble mettre le docteur Breggin en colère : Je remarque que de telles idées ne peuvent s'imposer dans la société que lorsqu'il y a un fort désir suicidaire dans la population. Tout le monde peut lire l'article complet ici.
C'est alors qu'arrive la partie qui semble mettre le docteur Breggin en colère : Je remarque que de telles idées ne peuvent s'imposer dans la société que lorsqu'il y a un fort désir suicidaire dans la population. Tout le monde peut lire l'article complet ici.
En résumé, le docteur Breggin estime que je blâme les victimes innocentes de la propagande tout en excusant les propagandistes. Et ce n'est pas la première fois que je le fais. Selon lui, j'ai fait exactement la même chose avec ma théorie de la formation des masses : blâmer les innocents et excuser l'élite criminelle. Et même avant la crise, j'avais déjà emprunté cette voie. Il a trouvé un article de journal de 2018 rapportant que j'avais protégé des meurtriers de masse dans le cadre de ma pratique de psychothérapeute.
En résumé, le docteur Breggin estime que je blâme les victimes innocentes de la propagande tout en excusant les propagandistes. Et ce n'est pas la première fois que je le fais. Selon lui, j'ai fait exactement la même chose avec ma théorie de la formation des masses : blâmer les innocents et excuser l'élite criminelle. Et même avant la crise, j'avais déjà emprunté cette voie. Il a trouvé un article de journal de 2018 rapportant que j'avais protégé des meurtriers de masse dans le cadre de ma pratique de psychothérapeute.


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